Can anyone help? I have been offered a job but they want me to start earlier than my one months notice.?
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It depends largely on your current job. Many employers do not want a disgruntled employee hanging around when they are uncomfortable and unable to perform professionally. They may also worry that you could become privy to company strategy and take it to new employer.
Talk it over with your current employer, and Good luck in the new job.
should be no problem at all, here in Holland it's for sure possible, and I don't see why it would be different elsewhere.
If you really want it - take the new job, after all what is the worst thing your current employer could do - sack you!!
Just take it - my firm always wants 1 months notice but if somebody leaves they never do anything about it - it's too expensive to pursue it legally.
You are entitled to take holiday as part of your holiday, it is often customary to have your holiday taken, as usually, an employer might need to pay you for any untaken holiday days.
In order to be sure how many days you actually have left, divide the amount of annual days of leave you have by 12, and multiply that by 6, as it has only been 6 full months since the beginning of February.
General note – just as an employer has to pay you for holiday days you haven’t taken, they will deduct your pay if you’ve taken more holiday than you should have.
Depending on how you get on with your managers, you can always try to get them to let you go sooner than your notice, but you should be perfectly aware that you will not be paid for time you didn’t work, i.e., if you were meant to give a month’s notice, and left after 2 weeks, you will only be paid for the 2 weeks you’ve worked and not the entire month.
Lots of luck!
technically, you should only have to give 2 weeks notice. but if you've already gotten the new job, then dont even worry about the old job. its not like you need them for a reference.
book your holiday then hand your notice in a couple of hours later. anyway i am sure your employer would rather pay you holiday now than after you leave.
i'd do it but becareful of ur wages.
Depends where you live.
Your new employer should be willing to wait, but as far as I know, the worst thing they can do is withold your last paycheck as the notice period. i.e. if you can only give 2 weeks notice, they may make you sacrafice 2 more weeks pay to make up the 4 weeks. They are required to pay you for holiday not taken, but it is at their discretion whether or not they let you use your untaken hols as notice period.
Just go to your doctor and get a sick note then hand that in to your current employer and have your months notice "ill" . Then start your new job
So far as I know, the company HAS to let you take that holiday you are owed - surely the best thing to do is get advice from the new employers - maybe they have someone in Personnel who would know or your actual new boss would know or find out for you. Failing that, you could ask your local Citizen's Advice Bureau or bite the bullet and speak to someone at your present place of employment
if your new employer are decnet they will understand that you have a notice period, Your new employer would want you to serve your notice if you left them, so they should understand you want to serve your notice with your current employer
you should never leave a job under a cloud. your new job might turn out to be crap and you may want to go back to your old job. or your old boss might leave and get a new job and might one day be interviewing you for some future job
always best to leave on good terms, you never know when you might need someone again in the future
You got a lot of practical advise from the previous posters. Now for a word of caution. Its extremely unprofessional to try and encash holidays in the notice period.
The notice period exists to that the 1st company can find substitutes for you, and you can help with the transition.
By ditching your 1st company, you
- come across as unprofessional
- antogonize the 1st company ensuring they never hire you back
- also do something unethical
Depending on your country's HR rules, some times, the 2nd company may need a reference from your previous company and the 1st company can deny you that on the above grounds, and then you would be in trouble.
If you explain the situation to the 2nd company, ideally they should be prepared to wait (or sponsor the exit clause if any with the 1st company). Incase they disagree, I think they have some ethical issues there right away.. and you need to be careful about them!
when you were interviewed for the job they should have asked you when 'is' the earliest you can start, if you told them you had to give a months notice, and sill offered you the job then they have to abide by that and cannot force you to start early, you could always ask your present employer if you can leave early, but in either case if you do have holiday owing to you, when you had your notice in, you can request that you leave earlyand use your holiday entitlement as part of your months notice, MOST employers will let you do this as sometimes its is better for them , to stop any 'confidentilaity' being broken.. hope this helps.
If you take that holiday you could end up having the cost of it deducted from your final pay because you have not really earned those days off yet as you have not worked a full year. Just like if you hadn't taken all of your holiday entitlement up to this point in time your employer would have to pay you the holiday in cash for the months you have worked so far in the year. Best thing to do is talk to your current employer. They may be reasonable and let you leave early as long as you handover any outstanding work to colleagues before you leave.
Most firms view your yearly holiday allowance as pro rata, this means that your holiday entitlement will only take you up to the time you handed in your notice, not till next Feb.
You say you have already taken 9 days, so you will only lose 1.5 days holiday pay.
On the other hand, what sort of firm will expect you not to work out your notice? The person requiring this is a very self centred person indeed. Do you really want to work for this man?
What happens if you want another job, because the demands of your new job are unrealistic?
Would you dare to ask your present employer for a reference, would you dare ask your new employer for a reference?
My advice is always try to leave on a good note, unless of course your present employer has treated you badly and doesn't deserve this.
Hard choice to make.
Under UK legislation you can only take holiday you've earned in the year so from Feb you've earned 12 days so you have 3 left. However you can alsways take unpaid leave.
If you're entitled to the holiday, they should let you take it except they have a business reason why not. If that's the case, then they'll have to pay you for the time instead. Regarding starting your new job, if you explain the situation to your current employers, they may be sympathetic and be willing to let you leave earlier.
ask your new company for the possibilities.
go ahead and take your new employment if you can stand the loss of a few pounds then you are the only one who will be affected as i read it!.why not ask for a meeting with you employer and leave with good relations
It is the company discretion, why don't u take the money in lieu of time off
that will solve both. C, Ray
Most companies will allow you to take you leave as part of your notice - talk to your manager.
Talk to the new employer as well, if they offered you a job knowing you had to give a months notice, and now insitst you start before the notice is up they probably will be a difficult company to work for.
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